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Census or Social Re-Engineering Project C/O Big Brother? American Community Survey

Perhaps you have never heard of this supplement to the US Census, or been the recipient of the governments strong arming and Nazi style  profiling tactics associated with gathering of data designed from "randomly selected" addresses selected each month for the American Community Survey...
 
"The American Community Survey collects information about various topics like education, housing and jobs. Information from this survey is used by federal state, local and tribal governments to meet the needs of communities across America."
http://www.census.gov/acs/www/
 
So, what... it's just a random census, right? No big deal. 
 
It may be random but compliance is mandatory according to the census bureau, with threats of fines for not returning the survey, or for each unanswered question. In just a couple days I've read enough horror stories to know what I personally am in for if I do not complete the survey, or fully complete it. Letters, phone calls, reps parking in wait, verbal intimidation, some even trying to strong arm their way into people's houses. That's the normal course from what I've read.
 
Now, why would people not want to just give the government what they ask for and leave it at that?
 
Before I list the general questions keep in mind this is data claimed to be intended for things like projecting population for future building of schools, highways, transportation systems funding...etc, etc..
 
Imagine the multitude of applications such personal information (see nature of questions to follow) identified to a "street address" would have in the hands of an identity thief,  hacker, scammer, terrorist org, or just plain old thief (let alone "the government") with some of the following information, especially that of elderly, disabled and other vulnerable citizens... 

 
Why should they (CB) care how many times I've been married in my lifetime, whether I can get up and down the stairs without a problem, the exact time I leave for work in the morning, how much time I took off from work, or whether I am mentally capable of making my own decisions? ... among other things.
 
First from a brochure included.. Frequently Asked Questions

On the question - Do I have to answer the questions...?

Yes, your response is required by law (Title 13 United States Code, Sections 141 and 193). Title 13 as changed by Title 18, imposes a penalty for not responding...
 
The questions, in general ...
 * asking about 1-12 (potential) persons, first five with detailed info.

Name, sex, age, birth year, whether Hispanic, Latino or Spanish origin, race,(more than one can be checked on that).
 
Persons 2-5 (one being the "primary person") are asked how they are related to person 1.

* Housing

What type of building: mobile home, apartment, one family, detached or attached, boat, rv, building in general...

When was the building first built
When did person 1 move in
How many acres

In past year, were sales of all agricultural products from the property

Is there a business or medical office on the property

How many separate rooms, not including baths, porches, halls, unfinished basements
but including bedrooms, and kitchens.

How many bedrooms

Hot or cold running water, a flush toilet, a bath or shower, a sink with faucet, stove or range, a refrigerator

How many automobiles

Type of fuel(s) used - all
includes gas, electric, coal, wood, solar, other or none

How much did elec, gas, cost last month?
How much water and sewer past 12 months
How much cost of oil, coal, kerosene, etc past 12 months
Does anyone receive food stamps?

Is it part of a condominium and if so how much monthly fee

Is it owned by someone carrying a mortgage or loan, or free and clear, rented

What is rent, does it include meals
How much would house sell for on market
Annual real estate taxes
House insurance cost, including flood, fire and hazard

More info on mortgage payments, if any.. including how much, and if they include real estate taxes, and home insurance. Is there a second mortgage, if so how much

Total annual costs for prop taxes, site rent, reg fees and license fees IF Mobile home
Detailed info on "Person one"

Name, where born, whether citizen, have they attended school or college in last 3 months, what grade level, level of education completed, if degreed what type.

Persons ancestry

Speak languages other than english, if so "how well" english

Did they live here one year ago, if person is under one year skip to whether insurance covered. If somewhere else, address, city, country, zip

What type of health insurance coverage

deaf or hearing impaired
blind or visually impaired

Because of a physical, mental or emotional condition, does this person have serious difficulty concentrating, remembering or making decisions?

Difficulty walking or climing stairs
dressing or bathing

Difficulty doing errands because of physical, mental or emotional condition

Marital status
change within past year

How many times has person been married
In what year last married

Any children given birth to in past year
And grandchildren under 18 living in house
If YES, is grandparent responsible for basic needs of child, children
And for how long

Ever served in US armed forces, military reserve, or national gaurd
if so when
VA service connected disability rating
What is the rating (in percents)

In last week did person work for pay at a job or business
At what location, and if within city limits

What transportation was used to get to work
How many people rode in car used for transport last week what time did they leave home to go to work. How many minutes did they drive.

Was anyone laid off or did they miss work (temporarily absent)
Are they on recall list for work?

Have they actively been looking for work in last four weeks

Could this person have started a job if offered last week

When did the person last work, even for a few days

During the past 12 months did the person work more than 50 weeks. How many weeks, how many hours did person work each week on avg.
Person 1
 
* People having worked in past five years

Part of non-profit, private, government, self-employed (incorporated or non) working without pay in family busines

Who did they work for
What type of business
Manufacturing, retail, wholesale or other
Kind of work
Most important duties or activities

Past 12 months income
* Like filling out an income tax form info

Wages, salary, self employment income, social security or rr retire, ssi, welfare or public assistance payments, retirement, va payments.. total income amount past 12 months

Person 2-5 (same work related income questions as person 1)
There has never been a big public uproar because it's sent to small "targeted" segments of the population at a time and when a stand is made the local government or state reps do nothing to address the issue. Plus there is a rapid response system in place to black  out and censor any negative press this survey gets. So, if this post mysteriously disappears in the near future, don't be too suprised.
 
World Net Daily has a few articles on this, and there are a few discussion sites blogs where you can read the personal testimonies of unhappy recipients of the American Community Survey over the past few years and their stories of trial and travail. For the young and strong it's easy to take a stand and endure the persecution and harrasment for ninety days, but for the sick and elderly it's not hard to see how they can be strong armed into compliance whether it's against their will or not.
 
With the 2010 census on the radar, government ownership and the help of groups like ACORN to ensure "compliance" many people in this nation may be in for one big and unhappy surprise. The American Community Survey is the writing that's been on the wall for the past few years, but only a select group of "randomly" selected citizens have been "priviledged" to see. As for social re-engineering, we ain't seen nothing yet!
 
 
 
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Safety Regulations Run Amok, Don't give the kids clothes to the Goodwill!

The LAT reports: "regulations set to take effect next month could force thousands of clothing retailers and thrift stores to throw away trunkloads of children's clothing."
 
When government goes too far and nobody really pays too much attention this is what happens.
 
Who knew? I wouldn't have if I hadn't done a search on on-line thrift ships that sold clothes and stumbled upon it. Wonder what this means to the small business owner population in general? Another way for the government to shut down the small business owner and entrepreneur under the guise of good intentions. How long before garage sales and flea markets are outlawed, I guess E-bay will soon be scrambling for new rules too maybe.
 
The problem is the "extremes" these laws take. Nobody wants lead in their childs toys, or whatever China is throwing into them these days but how far is too far?... I think this is a good example. Forced and costly testing in items that everyone knows does not include contaminated sources, the point for that is exactly WHAT? I  think it is multi-fold. And there are way too many folds.
 
"The law, aimed at keeping lead-filled merchandise away from children, mandates that all products sold for those age 12 and younger -- including clothing -- be tested for lead and phthalates, which are chemicals used to make plastics more pliable. Those that haven't been tested will be considered hazardous, regardless of whether they actually contain lead."
 
"The law introduces an extraordinarily large number of testing requirements for products for which everyone knows there's no lead," he said.

Clothing and thrift trade groups say the law is flawed because it went through Congress too quickly. By deeming that any product not tested for lead content by Feb. 10 be considered hazardous waste, they contend, stores will have to tell customers that clothing they were allowed to sell Feb. 9 became banned overnight."
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Feeling a whole lot like Lot?

Back in the Old Testament days Lot chose to live in Sodom, it was his free will choice and he could also have left there any time. The rest of the world was still available to him, and as time went on and his society degraded he was still aware that there were better places beyond the horizon (other options) to go live and raise his family.

Was it Mammon that held him there, and whatever worldly power and authority he had gained during that time?

I recently read something where an author blamed Lot’s wife, that her love of the material things kept them bound to that city and that was what made her turn (against God’s orders) and look back, only to be turned to a pillar of salt when the cities were destroyed. The author speculated she could not bear to leave her old life behind. I personally think it is more likely that she was just another one of those nosy woman who just had to know what was going on and her meddlesome desires were what destroyed her in the end.

Was Lot a righteous man or was he a wimp? If the author was correct about Lot’s wife, then the latter would be true about Lot. If that was really the case, Lot didn’t have to be led by his wife and continue living in sin city, after all, he was the head of the household. So that argument doesn’t hold much water with me.

What happened after he escaped out of the city with his daughters, their sexual deception of their own father is a clear sign of the impact of having grown up in that kind of environment on their own consciences and sense of moral wrong and right. Even though Lot is called righteous he tried to offer up his own virgin daughters as sexual sacrifice to the men of the town ,in lieu of his angelic guests whom he considered dignitaries. So even Lot, a righteous man, had been warped to a certain degree by his environment and driven in his choices (perhaps) by politics.

Why do I bring up the story of Lot?

In the days of Noah the whole world (not just “parts” as in Lot’s time) was corrupted except for Noah and his family. We are living in such times again (as Noah) but the scope of evil is of a much greater magnitude (due to many more people) and this world seems to look a whole lot to us like Lot’s, turning into one great big Sodom and Gomorrah. There “appear” to quite a few people who would love to have it so, and enough others willing to sit back and enable (them), allowing it to be so.

Where is the understanding, that innate knowledge built into every human being, the ability to discern the wrong from the right? Modern society with it’s teachings and it’s technologies have short circuited this in so many people, what other explanation can there be? One is not born with a seared conscience and yet so many seem to be completely given over to reprobate thinking. Some people temporarily lease their souls to Satan, others sell them lock stock and barrel.

The fact is that there is no place to physically hide now, no Utopia to escape to.

We have God and God alone as our hiding place, our rock and our fortress to protect us. We need to be hidden in Christ. And our one true hope is that by continuing to speak truth, the truths of God’s Word, that some of those still embracing darkness will soon long for and be led into the light… before the whole world feels the same kind of judgment and wrath that Sodom and Gomorrah did many years ago.

The big question is…

Will the righteous men and women in today’s world (who have some degree of power to change the society they are living in with God‘s help) have the guts and determination to do so? Or do they merely hope to just flee at the very end, having angels rescue them, to walk away and not look back, having no remorse while the cities of the world and all the rest of it’s inhabitants burn? 

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Christians: Buying the kids video games this Christmas?

* All video games just innocent fun? Don't think they effect your children? Don't care about content? Think it's OK to give the kids their freedom & not set rules in regards to what they play?

Parents, this Crosstalk episode is a must listen too... 

Video Game Violence for Christian Kids?


 http://www.crosstalkamerica.com/shows/recent_programs.php

* You can download as MP3, Windows Media, RealAudio

Quoted...

'Parents are often so entrenched in pursuing the American dream in an attempt to improve the lives of their children, that they aren't noticing what their kids are seeing and doing as they participate in video games. The problem is, according to Art, video games have become progressively worse. These games allow kids to participate in life-like gore, violence, sexual content, drugs and drug dealing, alcohol, and filthy language....'

* Is subjecting your children to feeding their minds with ongoing Graphic Violence, Sexual Content & Encounters, Profanity, Racism, Drug & Alcohol use that desensitizes conscience, removes normal sensitivity found within all humans not to perform certain extreme acts OK?

* You can also download and review this free guide from The Timothy Plan site

An Inside Look at Video Games

http://www.timothyplan.com/ProActive/frame-ProActive-videogame.htm 

This guide contains a quick Score Card format that scores over 140 video games based on content.

* You can chose the summary or graphic detailed guide, for extensive details on what is really contained in this popular games. You need to know what you are allowing be fed into your child's mind. 

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The Scary Truths about Twilight

* This is a must read review for any Christian who has even the smallest inkling of letting their children (or themselves) see this movie, or want to try to "Christianize it" into some church Bible study and discussions. as some emergents and other compromising sheep are doing.

* It is time for Christians to stop trying to pull "moral" and "spiritual" elements out of thin air from secular and occultic media which fly against God laws and precepts in order to stay relevant and appealing to the culture of our times. We are at the point where souls literally need to be pulled out of the fire, not thrown into it! 

* We saw the same thing with Pottermania, Christians jumping on the occult bandwagon, through reading this article by Written by Caryl Matrisciana and Paul Villanueva. December 2008 I would safely say, this is the next step in desensitizing the culture into further embracing the demonic and occult, and as was  the Harry Potter books series this Vampire grouping is primarily targeted towards impressionable youth.

http://carylmatrisciana.com/x2/content/view/81/1/

The "Twilight" Phenomena

Quoted...

"Incredibly, this Christmas Season, when Jesus, the Light of the world used to be highlighted by the Church, many Churched and Christian ministries are promoting another light, "Twilight" the movie!.."

"Based on Mormon, Stephenie Meyer's 4-book "vampire romance" series, the Twilight movie was released last week (Nov 21, 2008) in 3419 cinema theaters across the nation and grossed over $70 million its first weekend. It's the hottest pop culture phenomenon since Harry Potter mania..."

"Twilight takes occult darkness, introduced in Potter, to deeper, decadent fathoms: overt vampirism, acceptable blood-sucking (in this movie its only animal blood – later? Wait and see!) and sexual lust for the possessed soul (made appealing in its fictionalized form!)..."

"But what is beyond alarming is that Christians are seduced by satanic deception and have succumbed to Twilight's fascination of dark wisdom, a power Scripture warns against - loving evil more than good (Psalm 52:3), and placing what the world admires before what God requires.

Focus on the Family, Christianity Today, The Catholic News Service, Christian Stay at Home Moms and Christian Teen Magazine are among some of the Christian groups who've been misled by occult delusion, and instead of warning Christians of its dangers, have compromised its lying message..."

* I would suggest you read the article in full the story behind the series and the author, including some of her "spiritual visitations" and other musical inspirations are extremely disturbing.

"Meyer, a Mormon mother of three, states that some of her inspiration in writing her vampire saga came from a band of musicians called Marjorie Fair.  "For New Moon, they were absolutely essential. They can put you into a suicidal state faster than anything I know . . . Their songs really made it beautiful for me." Also an inspiration for one of her characters was a band called My Chemical Romance.  She states, "It's someone . . . who just wants to go out and blow things up.".."

"A housewife named Stephenie Meyer "received" the story of Twilight in a dream on June 2, 2003.  The vision she had of a vampire and mortal as lovers compelled her to start writing the story immediately..." 

"She says she had an additional dream after Twilight was finished when her vampire character Edward came to visit and speak to her. The Edward who visited her in the night told her she'd got it all wrong because he DID drink human blood, and could not "live" on ONLY animal blood as she wrote in the story..."

* For all those Christians trying to put a Jesus slant on this film, keep in mind.. the next installment has Bella and Edward finally giving into vampire lust and conceiving an unwanted child, of course Bella loses her soul in the process... So much for abstinance and family values and a "guy" who cares more about the girl than himself. If you let your child get lured in with the first installment, what can you expect from the ones that follow? It is adults and parents that are throwing their own children to both secular and spiritual wolves.

 

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Nazism, Pre-Civil War Slavery, Abortion... VOLITION

I just read on Lifesite news about a short movie called Volition which the Pro-life movement MUST promote because I believe this will change hearts and minds, and (potentially) many lives as well. It's a very short but powerful film. I really feel God is behind this endeavor.

The word needs to get out about this film. It is absolutely relevant to TODAY, to the times we are living through right now. You can watch it on-line.

http://www. thedoorpost. com/hope/film/?film=420351f1aefa2b42b1772fe9d5cc044a

Two very young and talented brothers directed the film and composed the music, Tim Morgan (directed) is 23, Matthew, his brother (composed all of the music) is 20.

- What is the premise of Volition?

Quoted from movie review...
"Volition places its central character, who goes unnamed, in the historical contexts of what the filmmakers clearly believe to be three of the greatest human rights violations in history: the holocaust, slavery, and abortion. In each of these situations the protagonist is placed in a position of some authority, with the promise of more to come.."

"The protagonist is scripted as the perfectly volatile figure, the man who walks on the razor's edge: young, handsome, intelligent and capable, he is being embraced by the establishment in each historical age, invited by those who control the power and the prestige to climb the ranks and enjoy the benefits with them.


"But in each vignette he is caught between two alternatives that are so dramatically mutually opposed that they demand a radical choice. He cannot not act.
"

- What I think is a pretty amazing aspect is that the film leaves the first two scenario's in limbo, we don't know the action he will take... but in the third we do, because (historically) we can not change the course of past history and grave human rights violations as were done during the Holocaust and dark pre-civil war period of slavery, but there is something that can be done about abortion, in our day.


- This is a powerful powerful message that speaks to not only abortion but many of the issues raging against today's society, as well.


Quoted...

"The sheer beauty and artistry of "Volition," the excruciating attention to detail evidenced in every shot, and the emphasis on the human story over its moral, ensures that those who watch the film must, like its protagonist, respond with a choice. They cannot, no matter how much they disagree with its message at first glance, write it off as a boring, or unbelievable, or crude attempt at making a piece of pro-life propaganda and leave it at that. The film demands that the viewer either choose to go along with the parallelism, to accept the similarity between the three great human rights violations, or either reject it - to watch passively is impossible. Either the current situation with abortion is like these past cruelties, in which case it must be vigorously opposed with the full powers of the mind and body, or it is an entirely new situation. But either way, Volition ensures that its viewers cannot ignore the question as unimportant.
"

- Lifesite News Reviews the film...

Film Review: Volition - A Film that Demands a Radical Choice
http://www. lifesitenews. com/ldn/2008/nov/08112501. html

I have dial-up so I am having problems running it because of timing issues. Let me know what you think of it, and spread the word...
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Evaluating The Muslim Response to Obama

An insightful interview on Political Pistachio Radio. Walid Shoebat discusses the political and religious aspects of the current times, Islam's response to Obama, potential impact on the upcoming administration and some unique perspectives on Revelations and Ezekial.
 
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Italian Nuns Refuse to Kill Eluana Englaro

This article made me cry, and these nuns are an inspiration. It's not over yet for Eluana. Although her father won the ruling and the decision handed down by the Court of Cassation to remove her feeding and hydration tube, there is the possibility that even now the nuns can petition for legal gaurdianship.

In the meantime, they are just not doing it... praise God!

Italian Nuns Refuse to Kill Eluana Englaro

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/nov/08111701.html

Quoted by the Misericordine nuns of Lecco

"Our hope, and that of many like us, is that the death by hunger and thirst of Eluana, and others in her condition, will not be carried out."

"That is why, once again, we maintain our availability, today and into the future, to continue to serve Eluana. If there are those who consider her dead, let Eluana remain with us who feel she is alive. We don't ask anything but the silence and the liberty to love and to devote ourselves to those who are weak, poor and little in return."

Quoted by Giulio Boscagli, Assessor to the Family and Solidarity in the region of Lombardy in which Eluana lives

"The ruling of the Court of Cassation seems to have lost sight of the reality" that Eluana is not dead but alive, although currently in a "seriously disabled condition."

The desire of the nuns to care for Eluana as though she is "a daughter," he said, "is the right path, the path taken by all those who daily take care of people who are in a vegetative state or very seriously disabled." Boscagli pledged the "closeness and support" of the Regione Lombardia for the nuns.

Eluana Englaro to Die by Dehydration after Italian High Court Ruling

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/nov/08111405.html

"Eluana's father, followed by the world press, has consistently described his daughter's condition as "vegetative." Cardinal Barragan, however, told La Repubblica, "The term 'vegetative state' is appropriate for plants, not human beings." Eluana's supporters have reported that she opens her eyes and is not in a coma."

Ask yourself a few things... If this person is not suffering and requires no other life support than food and water, and other's are freely willing (asking nothing in return) to permanantly assume the responsibility of taking care of them, why would a court refuse them? What humane reasoning or rationale would be behind that?

I pray God's will be carried out swiftly and that Italy will not follow the path of death that America and other nations have taken already.

We have to understand just how far the courts and legal systems will take these cases... to what point and by whose definition will human beings be classified as not having enough value or potential in a society's yardstick to live? It will go far beyond common sense, and you can be sure that "cost effectiveness" will drive what constitutes determining who will live and who will not. 

Also understand that this will extend far beyond those who are "physically" ill or incapacitated.. but to the areas of "mental" or "emotional" impairment, whether it be short or long term.

And with the growing questionable ethics behind the methods and practices within the organ donation industry (worldwide), you can also expect that the price tag may be negotiable for some of these who will be worth more "dead" than alive depending on the viability of their organs.

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Dr. Alveda King Speaks on Obama & the Nation

Obama Election Heals "White Guilt" at the Cost of Life and Family

The title of that commentary is pretty powerful, don't you think? Some quotes from an article by the neice of Martin Luther King Jr., a very strong pro-life and true "human" rights advocate.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/nov/08111705.html

Some quotes...

"So, now, with one fell swoop, America is faced with her greatest fears and highest hopes. These are the worst of times and the best of times, and the question is not what can we do but rather what will we do? Will we bury racist guilt and oppression along with the horrors of abortion and immorality? Or will we pretend that the dirty band-aid offered with this election will be enough to heal the wounds? "

"What is idolatry some ask? Idolatry is to sacrifice our babies' blood in the abortion mills, and then cause their little bodies to pass through the fire of the incinerators that rob them even of a decent burial. Idolatry is to sacrifice the virginity of our sons and daughters on the altars of the lewd music and films and Planned Parenthood's sexual revolution that entice them into explicit sexual conduct before they reach the marriage bed. Idolatry is to worship the un-mighty and dirty dollar to such a point that we spend everything on ourselves and have nothing left for the least of these..."
 
.... Now is the time to do what my uncle, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. said: do what is right because it is right. Now is the time to rise up and be the America that cares for our poor, our huddled masses longing to be free.

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Why this Christian is NOT "Not Voting!"

I don't know. Maybe you run in circles where everyone is planning to vote, be it in the wrong direction or the right one. But I know more than a few Christians who are using the "come out of Babylon" defense as an excuse for not voting in this upcoming election.

Say what? You say...

They believe that we in essence have been brainwashed into believing in a democratic system, and that God never wanted Christians involved, not even in the act of voting in any kind of world political system for whatever reason. It carries itself to different levels of extremes, depending on how many NWO (New World Order) devils can be seen hiding behind trees.

God has told some of them not to vote for the first time in their lives, they believe they have a new kind of freedom, being out of bondage of their former thinking that they had a right and a purpose for participating in the democratic process. By not excercising their "worldly" freedoms (rights), they can be spiritually free.

And then there are the multitudes of others who don't hold such strong spiritual convictions, but are disillusioned enough with our goverment and their choice of candidates to just not vote, consequences be hanged.

And then there are those swooning under the influence of the enemy.

I don't happen to be any of the above mentioned groups.

I wanted to share some things I shared with a small group of convicted non-voters who also identify themselves as bible-believing spirit filled Christians. It may not matter to you, it may not sway your opinion... but it must be said, nonetheless. Some people did quite not grasp my use of the stone throwing scripture as example of hypocrisy, some tried to twist that itself... that's why I added further insights to make things clearer, to the best of my ability.

The Reasons God wants ME to vote this coming election day...

Why this Christian is NOT "Not Voting!"

We don't have two "messiah's" running for office. The heart of all men is desperately wicked.

We know where these candidates stand, and they are standing on extremely opposing sides of most issues. Things really are very black and white in this election as far as their stands, I hate to use that phrase but it was so appropriate I had to.

We know which issues are important to God... the great commission, life, morality, family & our relationship to Him.

We also know that in this close a contest our not voting will make a difference, it will have effect and in essence it is casting a vote for more popular candidate who happens to be Obama. There are more registered Democrats. That's the bottom line. McCain needs those votes more than Obama. The No-vote which could have been a tie-breaker defaults to the side of Obama, it is not a wash.

If God has led you to vote third party, that's another story.

For many, not voting is the casting of a decisional stone (based on perceived moral and spiritual superiority) against these candidates. If only we could see what Jesus is writing in the sand right now!

John 8:7-9 (King James Version)

7So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
8And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
9And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

For those who have voted years after year for imperfect politicians (Christian and Non-Christian alike) to now suddenly chose not to because they do not meet their standards "of whatever" a Christian is supposed to be.. is hypocrisy.

Jesus was showing the crowd their own hypocrisy. The woman was not a victim in that scripture, she was a sinner and the scripture is more a lesson about those who would have thrown the stones somehow thinking they were more deserving of mercy than she.

This was and still is my point... the self-rightous motivation for throwing the stone (making a choice to do or not to do) in the first place. Of course using certain scriptures can cut more than one way. Just because an example can be used more than one way does not invalidate it in an argument. I've tried now to clearly represent my use of the scripture here.

I didn't say "all" Christians, I said many and I stand on that. A lot are using their disappointment in our current administrations performance to color their decision because they feel they backed the wrong horse and don't want it to happen again. It is more flesh based reaction than a spiritual choice.

There's no denying that there is accountability for every action or inaction it's a precept that the Bible clearly shows us.

Someone wrote...

This is not hypocrisy if the person voted in times past because they were just "taught" that is the thing they should do just because they were born in America... Sometimes God works to liberate people

I replied...

Unfortunately I have seen many Christians who are about to do what I mentioned, and they are not not voting out of sudden new convictions or something God has recently revealed to them and opened their eyes about. The validation they are giving is that GB disappointed them, they thought he was a better Christian than he turned out to be "in their eyes" and they pretty much don't trust Republicans and especially evangelicals.

It is not posing a stumbling block to ask Christians to examine themselves to make sure their reasons are not flesh driven, or present a solid defense for their actions or inaction. Much of the church today blames the world for the state of the world, there are a high degree of Christians who do not admit accountability that their role (what they have and have not done) in the world has impacted it in both positive and negative ways. They will take credit for the good but not for any bad, especially based on their own inaction.

The process of conviction never makes anyone comfortable in their own skin. My voting in this current election has very little to do with the Democratic process but does have a whole lot to do with things that God has convicted me of since I became a born-again Christian and especially in the last few years. There is a much higher consequential weight than in the past that has now been assigned to our decision making (especially for Christians) in recent days (months, years) because of the time we are living in... this applies to all areas of our life.

I won't explain past that.

God has impressed on me that there will be great consequences attached to the actions in the coming days. He has shown me how the silent majority has the power to allow evil and inhibit good and that inaction is a powerful tool of the adversary. He will spit lukewarmness out of His mouth.

Some may be doing this out of their own convictions or (hopefully) His but many are simple doing or not doing based on the current lukewarm state of themselves and those around them... these are the hypocrites and they are many

I am voting because God has strongly impressed upon me that I must vote, and that who I chose to vote for is the real issue, it is about "the decision"... one that will either be in obedience to His voice and His will or not. Part of the criteria is I will be in disobedience to Him if I choose someone who I know without doubt was following after a false Christ and "another" God. Choosing someone who stood against the things that God stands for would also be a direct violation. These things have been very strongly impressed upon my spirit.

In recent days, it's become clear (revealed to me) that the outcome of this vote "in God's eyes" (which will not be weighted by the world's standards or have the same visible outcome) ... not whether or not it gets "a person" elected to office. It's more about my current and future office, than theirs.

Every thinks they are seeing the big picture, but honestly there is a far bigger picture, it's a spiritual one that needs to be seen. Whatever we do it will qualify or not qualify us in a spiritual sense. But even more so it's about "the kingdom" (which is Christ's).

I can't see the logic in God telling some people clearly to and others clearly not to... as it is evident by the claims of those on this forum (including myself)... but God's the one who has the answer to that.

I'm not just voting or voting in a specific way just because I feel it would be in the will of God, I am doing it because it is His mandate for me and I understand that mandate has to be looked at from both a world and a spiritual perspective.

God is impressing upon ME that both parts of this equation are important. Although this is (in part) about preparation and testing and accountability based on our position in Christ and our calling in Him... it is mainly about defending and fortifying HIS Kingdom which is still being "built up" (in heaven)... It's about souls still waiting to be won and added to the kingdom and souls still waiting to be born.

It was so interesting that someone mentioned Esther because I am "hearing" something right now.. God will raise up part of of His kingdom somewhere else as the outcome of these "decisions" which will circumvent the great commission in this land.

Because all of us are expected to follow after the same general set of precepts and laws no matter what our calling... some (but not all) will find they were rightly hearing and acting according to God's will for not only themselves, but for the body of Christ and the world as well.

I pray that each of us finds ourselves at the right side in the end.

 

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Are you a Counterfeit?

As an Evangelical Bible-believing Christian my personal beliefs are very much in agreement with the Pope and genuine Catholic followers in regards to sanctity of life issues which God holds precious to His heart... Especially the gravely serious issue of abortion.

Partial birth abortion is no myth.
Abortion in all it's forms is murder.
The Catholic church condemns abortion.
Those who actively support abortion by voting for candidates who support it are in every sense partners to it.

Pro-choice "Catholics" who support Obama are Counterfeit Catholics
* The same rule applies to Evangelicals

I am not often in agreement with Pat Buchanan, but his recent article is right on.

IF (genuine) Evangelicals and Catholics are truly faithful and refuse to compromise themselves and their strong held religious beliefs... Obama will not become the next US President.

A vote for Obama really is a vote for change, that change being (both) moral and spiritual compromise for those who claim to be followers of Jesus Christ.  

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Christian Spousal Abuse, How the Church often fails

Ingrid Schlueter has posted a four part series on Domestic Abuse in Christian homes on THE HOPE BLOG. A woman who is not afraid to address tough issues within the church, this series for Ingrid was very personal as she herself had been a victim of spousal abuse.

 

Praise God that she escaped the snare of domestic violence and found healing in Christ!

This is a topic that has been swept under the carpet for far too long. Has your church honestly thought about or addressed this issue?

A couple years ago I heard a radio segment on domestic abuse from a Christian perspective which included several pastor's wives who had suffered such abuse, as well as police enforcment officer with much experience in this area. Christians have "sort of" brooched this subject, but honestly not tackled it. I think it's time the subject was taken seriously.

Far too often, Christian women who are are victims of abuse are the ones who get judged by the church who takes the blame of the abuse off the abuser and places it very wrongly on the shoulders of the abused themselves.

I encourage you to read Ingrid's articles on this subject. It's time to shine the light of Christ brightly on this subject and drive out the dark evils of domestic violence, once and for all!

http://ingridschlueter.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/inherit-the-wind-when-men-hurt-their-own/

Quote...

"Today I want to address something, however, that is a topic rarely, if ever, addressed by Christians. I don't think I have ever heard a pastor preach on this subject in all the years I have spent in church. I've seen only a handful of books on the subject in all my years in radio. I want to talk about domestic abuse in supposedly Christian homes..".

http://ingridschlueter.wordpress.com/2008/07/30/inherit-the-wind-when-men-hurt-their-own-part-2/

Quote...

"Fundamental churches that have an obedience emphasis in marital counseling can drive abused women to despair. These women are told that they, not the men, are responsible for the tone in the home...Women are generally viewed as the problem in these cases, with the husband's issues being secondary to the great issue of submission in the wife."

http://ingridschlueter.wordpress.com/2008/08/05/inherit-the-wind-when-men-hurt-their-own-part-3/

"For each abused woman who manages to get out and finally protect her children and herself, there is a breaking point that gets reached. As terrible as it is to get there, it is necessary to reach bottom in order to change..."

http://ingridschlueter.wordpress.com/2008/08/10/inherit-the-wind-when-men-hurt-their-own-part-4/

"But however a woman ends up married to a man who abuses her, the fault for the abuse rests firmly on the shoulders of the man who does it. Nobody, male or female, has the right to harm another person, period, and no man has the right to lay a hand on a woman, regardless of what he thinks of her...."

Those quotes (above) from the four part series are Ingrid's words, but it's the comments of readers on the blog and their incredible testimonies (of those who have overcome, or are in the process of overcoming) that should not be ignored! I won't include quotes (from them) here, you really need to read all four parts including the readers comments for this to truly hit home in what may be a life-changing way for some people. I pray you do!

God bless!

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Eugenics Mandate in Reproductive Rights Agenda Exposed

A recent article on Lifesitenews.com

New Book Exposes Eugenics Mandate in Reproductive Rights Agenda

Part I: Power, Money, and Science Unite to Exterminate the World's Poor

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/jul/08071007.html

Susan Yoshihar, Ph.D talks about the book...

Quoted..

"... The book, "Fatal Misconception: The Struggle to Control World Population," was written by Columbia University historian Matthew Connelly and shows why today's reproductive rights advocates are "faithfully reciting a eugenic catechism without the faintest idea where it comes from or where it can lead."

Part II: Creating "Crises" and "Shock Attacks" in the "War" on Population

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/jul/08071709.html

Quoted...

"... According to Connelly, when Malthusian theories used to justify eugenics fell out of favor, population controllers invented new theories. Founding members of the US Agency for International Development (USAID) returning from the Vietnam War, transferred the counterinsurgency tactic of "population control" to USAID's strategy. Chinese missile scientist Jian Song used computer generated modeling to create the appearance of "precise forecast" of disaster for China if the government did not limit women to bearing one child..."

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"Considering" the ethics of Infanticide

Today Lifesitenews.com published the following article. 

US Pediatric Nursing Journal Toys with Condoning Infanticide

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/jul/08071705.html

I would recommend reading the full article to get the whole context.

There is a growing trend in the healthcare profession at home and abroad to redefine the "ethics" concerning infanticide, killing newborns who are determined by a medical professional that for them and the good of society at large their "quality of life" and it's future value would deem them a candidate for death through lethal injection or other means. This criteria is also becoming more and more subjective.

In some nations, like the Netherlands infanticide is legal, but it's ugly roots have spread out world wide and more and more countries, especially those who have socialized medicine are seeing the "cost in dollars" and "space one takes up in a hospital bed" as part of the potential criteria for an early ending of life. We know this has been happening in the situation of Euthanasia of the elderly for quite some time. And it goes way beyond even the subjective definition of pain and suffering, or perceived quality of life... it comes down to the dollars.

When medical science and health care professions starts considering the viability and ethics of something like Infanticide, calling them gray areas that need to be explored and seeking open debate on them... You know that the Devil has already got his foot firmly in the door.

Quoted...

July 17, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A professional journal for pediatric nurses has produced an article examining the ethics of infanticide according to the Dutch Groningen Protocol. The Protocol permits the killing of babies in the Netherlands on the judgement of a physician based on "quality of life" criteria. The article, appearing in the May-June 2008 edition of the Journal of Pediatric Nursing, and jointly authored by J. Catlin and Renee Novakovich, talks about the effects of the Protocol on medical ethics in the US.

The piece, "The Groningen Protocol: What Is It, How Do the Dutch Use It, and Do We Use It Here?" calls the issue "complex." The authors describe work undertaken by the American Nurses' Association (ANA) to help nurses define "the differences between euthanasia, assistance in dying and palliative care." The authors also write that although there are wide divisions in opinion on the direct killing of disabled infants, countries must continue to examine the moral, medical, ethical and legal aspects.."

 

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Christian Groups who Evangelise Cannot Also do Social Service Work

Just published today... News from Great Britain

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/jul/08071609.html

Christian Groups who Evangelise Cannot Also do Social Service Work: Labour Secretary

By Hilary White

"... Blears said she will draft a "charter" for churches and Christian agencies providing community services. The charter will require groups to pledge to provide "an inclusive service to our community" in a number of ways. One of these is, "Never imposing our Christian faith or belief on others."

We are following closely on the heels of Great Britain and Canada. Religous Freedom as we once knew it will soon become a thing of the past.

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